Post details: BMG Copy Control CD Protection

Sun, 11 January 2004

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BMG Copy Control CD Protection

Could someone please explain the point of this please? My girlfriend was given Will Young's new CD Friday's Child as a Christmas present and found it wouldn't play in her car cd player. I took a look and it has a tiny 'Copy Control' logo on the front of the case, and on the back a box showing that the compatibility is <100% on devices other than 'CD Audio Home Player'.

When I tried it in my PC, Windows Explorer is unable to read the tracks and you have to install a proprietary player to play highly compressed versions. However, when I opened it with Media Jukebox, cdex or Extract Audio Copy (EAC) I was able to play and rip the tracks without a problem. So BMG's copy protection prevented the one thing that they can't complain about, namely playing the CD, and completely failed to prevent me ripping the CD.

I'm now in posession of MP3s of the whole album and am toying with sharing them on Kazaa and WinMX to serve them right for making me spend half an hour re-recording the CD. Well done BMG.
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Comment from chris
It is illegal for record companies to sell copy protected CDs in the EU (as under EU law you are allowed to make a backup of any CD you own therefore in making it uncopyable the record companies are taking this right away from you - and still pocketing the compensation they recieve from the EU which is supposed to help reimburse them for money they loose from people copying the CDs)- so I suggest anyone who has purchased one should take it back and get a refund. There is also the fact that the record companies produce shit music now, charge too much for CDs, overpay talentless turds like Robby the robot Williams or whatever his name is etc etc. Personally, I cant wait for the record companies to go out of business. It will make for a better world.
25/01/04 @ 12:26
Comment from Piglet
Nero 6 also rips this disk without any problems....
07/02/04 @ 10:03
Comment from desmond
i use padus, and i can duplicate the whole disc without any problem, what a stupid way to have copy control
01/04/04 @ 15:25
Comment from Luke
But with padus Juggler and Nero you won't be able to skip tracks then - they are writting the disk as one big waveform ;)
26/05/04 @ 22:28
Comment from Ben
I have also had problems with these discs - can anybody tell me how I would go about listening to a CD (that I have paid at least the same price as "proper" CDs)on an iPod (or similar player)?

The iTunes software cannot convert the CD to MP3, yet the iTunes website will sell me an MP3 of the CD I have already bought!! What a rip off!

Also, I have just bought the Kasabian CD which is a double sided CD - CD on one side and DVD on the other. Quite clever, until you try to play it in the car (it is too fat to get in the CD player and jams) or on the iPod (copy control...). Hope I kept the receipt, unless anyone wants to buy a second hand CD? Thought not....


02/10/04 @ 21:03
Comment from Wraith · http://www.dragonscale.co.uk
Same problem occurs with the new Velvet Revolver Contraband CDs - you have to install software to use your PC to play the tracks. Now, I use my PC as a media centre (it replaces my stereo as I have an excellent soundcard/speaker setup) and I will not install unwanted software on my system to listen to tracks I have PAID FOR. In addition, my sonic stage and MD burner programs fail to copy the tracks to ATRAC3 (LP4) for use with my Network Walkman and MD player (both of which I paid a lot of cash for). I resent being treated in this way. I pay for my music and am now unable to legally use it due to misguided copy protection! Grr...
10/11/04 @ 09:25
Comment from Baronne · http://baronne.mouton.com
I can't believe it.. what a bunch of tossers! I have also run into this problem. I have a huge collection of CDs which I am ripping onto my iPod and have found a fair handful of CDs with this bleeding copy control on. I think it's a cheek! I did scout around the newsgroups and found a bit of German software called Feurio which sorta worked for the Velvet Revolver CD but for others you get some weird results when you find there are tracks for only 10 seconds and stuff like that... I dunno... can't work it out.
05/01/05 @ 23:04
Comment from Mike
It's extremely irritating, though I didn't know it's illegal. I'm very tempted to ask for my money back too. Incidentally, I managed to copy the tracks using Nero (saving as wave files, then burning to a CD), though it was fiddly, time-consuming and, as I say, very very irritating.
13/01/05 @ 16:19
Comment from Gavin
I'm just managing to rip Kasabian now, it seems that if I try to ri[p it using my DVD drive, it does the one big track thing, which is really annoying, however it seems that I can rip it normally using a CDRW drive and EAC, although it does seem like it has just installed something called APlayer that I don't want on my computer.
16/02/05 @ 11:26
Comment from Danny
I put the CD in my CDRW drive opened Nero chose make an audio CD, copied the tracks to an image. I then loaded the image in Nero Image Drive. Then I ripped the tracks with Windows Media Player.
12/03/05 @ 02:59
Comment from Wildcat69
Here is a site that give step by step instructions on how to disable the copy protection used by Sony BMG (which is MediaMax by Sunncomm).

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/
15/03/05 @ 08:09
Comment from Outi
We got one yesterday for the first time -- had no idea. Completely broken. Posted a photo of it to Flickr. Perhaps grouping these albums together somewhere with a tag like "brokencopy" is a good start. That is what the companies are selling -- broken copies of a master recording they don't trust you to copy for yourself.
18/01/06 @ 12:23

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