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Tue, 05 April 2005

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Topfield TF5800 PVR Review

I've been threatening to buy a PVR for the last 6 months, trouble was there was always something new around the corner. I started off planning to get the DigiFusion FVRT150, then moved to the Panasonic TU-CTH100 and then the Inverto IDL-7000T. Finally I found one that seemed to match my requirements - large hard drive, USB connection and the ability to upload custom applications - the Topfield TF5800 PVR.

I hadn't heard of Topfield before, but reading around they seemed to be very popular in Australia and Germany. The Toppy, as the Ozzies affectionatly call them, also has a good reputation for reliability. So I took the plunge, and £300 later I was the owner of the newly released box.

For those thinking looking around for a PVR, here's my opinion of it.

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Design
It's not what you'd call beautiful, but neither does it look out of place next to other AV equipment. It's not the 'standard' VCR size, so it may look a bit odd stacked, but as a stand-alone unit it's fine.

The front of the unit has a four character green LCD displaying the time when the box is on stand-by, the channel number if it is only receiving, EPG if it's displaying the Electronic Programme Guide, or RECO if it's recording. It would have been nice to have the clock in addition to normal display, having been used to a VCR clock displaying all the time, but it's no great loss.

Remote
Functional is probably the best way to describe it. The centre of the remote is taken up by four large cursor keys, but oddly you can't change channel or adjust the volume with them, you use much smaller dedicated buttons located under the cursor keys for this. My only criticism is that some of the keys are a bit fiddly to use, but you get used to them.

Noise
This was a big factor in deciding which PVR to go for. What drew me to the Topfield was that, unlike a number of other models, there is no fan. In standby the Toppy is completely silent, in normal viewing it is barely audible, and when recording there is the occasional sound of the disk, but nothing intrusive.

The only downside of the lack of fan is that the unit can get quite hot. I have mine on an open shelf, so there is plenty of ventilation. I certainly wouldn't recomment putting anything on top of it, especially in a closed cabinet.

Picture Quality
The picture quality is good, very good. The picture is very sharp, with no hint of artifacts or ghosting. I live in a fairly weak reception area and the Toppy has no problem picking up the signal. It seems to be at least as sensitive as my Daewoo SetPal Freeview box, and that had a very good reputation for picking up weak signals. Before I bought it I was a bit worried that the reception on the 2nd tuner would be weak, as it effectively splits the signal, but that hasn't been a problem.

Electronic Program Guide (EPG)
The TF5800 uses the 7 day Freeview EPG rather than the 14 day 4TV EPG used by other PVRs. This has the advantage that the information is always up to date, but the disadvantage that it has to load every time the box is brought out of standby.

There are two EPG views - a vertical single channel listing, and a horizontal four-channel version. Both show the channel you're watching in the top right quarter of the screenYou scroll around the EPG using the cursor buttons, and can set the unit to record directly from the EPG.

However, there is one major niggle with the EPG - when you move the cursor to a different channel, the channel you're viewing also changes, so it's not possible to browse what's coming up next without changing channel, or even browse the week's listings.

Recording/Timers
Recording the channel you're currently watching is as simple as pressing the record button. It would have been nice if it would check the EPG and record for the remainder of the programme, but instead it carries on for the default 2 hours (changable in the menu).

If you're watching a programme and halfway through realise you wished you'd recorded it, no problem, you can select 'current event' from the recording menu and it will automatically record what you've watched so far from the buffer, and carry on recording until the end of the show.

Timers can be set either from the EPG, or you can also set regular daily, weekly, weekday or weekend timers. The timer list displays all future recordings, but only lists them in date/time order. It would be nice to also have the option of ordering them by channel.

The Topfield can record two channels simultaneously, whilst allowing you to watch a previously recorded programme. Surprisingly, you can also watch a 3rd live channel, as long as it is being broadcast on the same MUX as one of the channels you're recording. I believe the ability to do this is unique amongst PVRs.

Playback
The file list displays all previously recorded programmes, and you simply scroll down and select the one you want to view. Skipping through recordings is a bit trickier than it should be, but will hopefully be resolved soon. The Topfield DVB PVRs sold in Australia and Germany have a bookmark feature, so if you only watch half a programme you can easily skip to where you left off. For some reason this was left off the UK version, but we're hoping Topfield will add it back in an OAD.

Chasing Play
The TF5800 is very versatile when it comes to chasing play. You can pause live TV and start it at any time and rewind live TV; with both of these you can easily jump straight back to 'live'. Additionally you can start watching a recording before it has finished. The only problem with this is that when the recording finishes, the playback jumps to the end, presumably so you can check whether you need to extend the recording. Imagine how annoying it would be if you were chasing play with a football match, and it jumped to the end if you found out the final score.

Connectivity/Extendibility
The Topfield can be connected to a PC via USB 2.0. I have mine connected with a 5m cable (the max length for USB is supposed to be 2.5m) without any problems. Recorded programmes can be transfered back to the PC for burning to DVD, and it also allows you to upload MP3s for playback. Transfer speed isn't great, about 2MB/second, but bear in mind that a half hour program is about 1GB.

The functionality of the TF5800 can also be extended by the use of 'TAPS', specially written programmes that are uploaded. Topfield publish the API so you can hook into the various functions. The potential for this is enormous, and there are a number of very extensive TAPS already in use in Australia and Germany that extend the functionality of the EPG or allow timers to be set over the internet.

Unfortunately Topfield changed the codes that the remote control sends to the unit, so the existing TAPS aren't yet compatible with the UK version. Hopefully this will be solved soon.

Conclusion
This is my first PVR, and it's one of those things you think, 'how did I get by without this?' Until you have one, you don't realise how useful it is to be able to, for example, pause live TV. The Topfield TF5800 PVR is around £50 more expensive than others on the market, so is it worth the difference? In my opinion yes. The USB connection and the larger hard drive alone justify the extra cost.

Yes there are niggles, such as the EPG changing the channel, but with the option of using TAPS these kind of problems can be fixed without waiting for a manufacturers update. The only glaring omission is bookmarks, but I'm sure these will be available soon.

I've been accused of only ever writing negative reviews on here, so this may come as a surprise - I highly recommend the Topfield TF5800 PVR. If, like me, you were holding back, waiting for the right model to come along, now is the time to jump in and get yourself a Toppy. £300 incredibly well spent.

**UPDATE 3 July 2006**
Anyone considering buying a Topfield from Superfi would be well advised to read this thread on the Toppy forums and then decide if they really want to buy from them. I recommend Turbosat.

**UPDATE 3 August 2005** - Now With DigiGuide Interface
Some of you may be aware of DigiGuide, the Windows-based TV guide with very powerful search functions. Well, there are now two ways to automatically export your markers from DigiGuide and load them as timers on your Toppy. This means you can now have proper series links, a la Sky+/Tivo, and have programmes automatically recorded that you didn't even know were on and would otherwise have missed! If that's not a reason to choose the Topfield over the competition, I don't know what is!!

**UPDATE 18 May 2005**
Now I've had the Topfield for getting on 6 weeks, I thought I'd give an update. Since I wrote the original review we've had a firmware update which has fixed a number of issues and introduced a couple of new features, namely bookmarks & a sleep timer. With the bookmarks you can easily jump straight to where you were in a recording. This reinstates functionality that is present on other Topfield models, but was missing on the 5800.

My niggle with the EPG changing the channel when you're browsing has been resolved by using Jag's EPG TAP. This is a vast improvement on the standard EPG as it also buffers the information to the hard disk so it's not reset when you put the Toppy into standby. In addition, you can also set search words so it will automatically record all instances of a programme. Not quite Season Pass, but as close as you can get with the Freeview data at the moment as they don't broadcast episode numbers.

The only issue left is with the way the Toppy switches channel when it finishes a recording, but I'm confident this will be resolved in a future firmware update. Topfield have shown that they are taking the UK market seriously by releasing a firmware update for the 5800 so soon after release (compared with the Panasonic TU-CTH100 owners who are having to wait until June at the earliest). I said in the original review that the 5800 was worth the £300; that's been confirmed by the firmware upgrade.

**Update 22 October 2005**
Over the last month the Toppy has suffered from two serious bugs related to the BBC MHEG output (the interactive stuff). In both cases the bugs have been fixed quickly, but it remains to be seen whether the fundamental MHEG handling has been improved, or whether the cracks have been papered over.
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Comment from nik
Sounds like we're getting closer to an ideal digital environment at a non media centre price. (Full wireless connectivity & PC control would be nice).

I'd be interested to know how user friendly this PVR is? i.e. would my missus be throwing the remote against the wall 'cos she'd pressed the wrong buttons & missed Corrie again ?! :(

(I sincerely hope the disk heads are NOT clicking the platters tho'! )
Cheers
Nik
10/04/05 @ 09:59
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
Yes, it is easy to set it to record, even for the most technically inept. It's just a case of scrolling to the programme in the EPG and pressing the record button (and pressing it again if you want to pad the start and end times).

Once the differences in the remote codes are solved then the Toppy will have greater PC control. There's a TAP that allows you to set the timers from your PC, which means it's possible to set it to record over the internet. So you could be out and about and set it from your mobile phone. I don't know if Media Center can even do that.

(I've edited out my disk heads/platters stupidity, thanks)
10/04/05 @ 10:27
Comment from Gee
Like you I've been waiting for the right PVR to come out. The Panasoninc from reviews just sounds so disappointing especially after the long wait.

I saw the Inverto and I am in two minds over this one and that... The EPG problem puts me off a little on the Topfield and so does the remote control, but I like everything else about it especially the PC connectivity. I don't know anything about TAPs so how do you go about using a TAP to fix the EPG problem?

Why did you count out the Inverto?

Cheers
Gee
10/04/05 @ 14:44
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
I went for the Topfield over the Inverto for the USB connection, the TAPS and the larger hard drive (in that order). I might not ever archive to DVD, but the option is there if I want to; similarly I probably won't ever fill the hard drive, but I'd have been annoyed if I'd gone for the Inverto and missed something because there was no space for the recording.

The TAPS add the potential to make very small changes to the box, e.g. automatic padding of timers, to very large ones, such a a replacement EPG, without having to wait for a firmware upgrade. There are TAPS to view JPGs, that remind you about birthdays, that...you get the idea.

Don't let the EPG problem put you off - I'm already running a simple one that allows you to browse what's on without changing the channel.

Not sure what you mean about not liking the remote control, but it's perfectly usable, just not the best designed I've ever seen. As a case in point about the TAPS, I made a comment about not being able to use the arrow buttons to change the channel or volume. It would be possible to write a TAP that changes their function so they can do just that.

If you can afford the extra, and are inclined to mess around with PCs, I would thoroughly recommend the Topfield
10/04/05 @ 15:18
Comment from Gee
Stuart,

Thanks for the information above!!!

I'll probably end up going for the Toppy... Will you be able to provide me with a TAP for the EPG (and instructions on how to apply/install TAPs)?

Gee
10/04/05 @ 18:47
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
Yes, although it's very straight forward. You can also get a lot of information on www.toppy.org.uk
14/04/05 @ 12:22
Comment from Dale
BUY IT!!! Thats the best bit of advice I could give. Its briliant!

Ive had a Tivo for a long time now, and thought that Tivo was a 'Must Have' piece of equipment. Not any more, this PVE is fantastic.

Sure, ther are bugs, but as previously mentioned, either future Updates from Topfield or thirdparty TAPS will fixed them.

Go on - SPEND YOUR CASH!
18/04/05 @ 01:11
Comment from Simon
Hi,
I took the plunge yesterday and purchased the Toppy from Unbeatable, where it states a 160gb hard drive. In the manual it states 80gb with 120gb/160gb as optional. So are the UK 5800's shipping with 160??
I am Still getting to grips with it, but first impressions are great. Like a other people I had been waiting, first for the tucth100 then the inverto.
23/04/05 @ 07:46
Comment from Peter Peek · http://www.peeksoft.co.uk
Well I think you chaps are wonderful by sharing your experiences. I am on my third Panasonic TC-CTH100 and what a load of crap. I am a Panasonic fan and I will be getting my money back and buying a Toppy. Thapanasonic box freezes, does NOT record the correct time i.e. 1hor may be 49 minutes 6 seconds or 59 minutes 57 seconds. The picture breaks, the remote is very slow to respond and above all recordings are LOST. Panasonic have released this box with a whole load of bugs in it - I thought I was buying quality!
24/04/05 @ 12:09
Comment from Jason
I've heard several reports of UK Toppies failing to record, or recordings having no content (file size of zero). I appreciate the benefits of the TAPs, but is the firmware full of bugs in the first place?

I'm looking to replace my DigiFusion box, which worked faultless for a long period before failing dramatically, and need to know if the Toppy is going to be reliable.

My original Freeview decoder was a Panasonic and the level of support the offered was atrocious. I'd never buy another of their products.
25/04/05 @ 13:11
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
Hi Jason. I've had mine for a month now, and only had 3 problems with recordings (out of about 100). One 'blank' recording (which can be played using a quick workaround), and 2 missed timers this morning (there seems to be an issue with Weekday timers).

This is my first PVR, so I don't have anything to compare it with, but I wouldn't swap it for any others on the market, including the upcoming Inverto: the USB connection would be very hard to live without.
25/04/05 @ 16:17
Comment from JJ
who sells the toppy ???
26/04/05 @ 11:46
Comment from Derjie
I've been waiting for info on Inverto vs Toppy reviews for ages - so thanks everyone!! I think I know enough to buy my PVR finally. I suppose there's one other benefit of the Toppy vs the Inverto in the ability to plug in TUTV cards (although with E4 going over to freeview, it sounds like Top Up telly is on its last legs.) THanks for the comments...
29/04/05 @ 14:56
Comment from Derjie
p.s. JJ check www.toppy.org.uk for places to buy
29/04/05 @ 14:58
Comment from IP
On the subject of trying to make your mind up there is a very good thread on Digital Forum comparing the Inverto to the Toppy ( http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=209559&page=11&pp=25) . I have used this and as a result decided to buy the Toppy
30/04/05 @ 15:42
Comment from Martin
Just got my Toppy today and I am really impressed. So far amazing and easy to navigate around with. Had a Pace Twin before and was very happy with the machine, above all the recording on to a DVD was straightforward and easy. With the Toppy thats my only reservation as to how easy it will be to transfer the content on to DVD without having to connect it to a PC. Can anybody help?
Apart from that I am very happy with my purchase today .
04/05/05 @ 21:06
Comment from Nick · http://www.bluemini.com
Mines on order and I'm getting a little excited about it, reading all the good things that are out on the web. Re your point about setting recordings from your mobile over the web, I've been doing this using a digiTV card in my PC for the past 18 months or so which works great, but the PC/graphics card spec plays such a part in the quality of the playback that I'm really looking forward to a dedicated machine for the whole lot. Now it's a question of waiting for it to be delivered! (I just wish I'd paid that bit extra and bought next day delivery...)
10/05/05 @ 17:27
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
Nothing worse than waiting for a delivery! You're in for a treat - Topfield released a firmware upgrade today. They've added bookmarks, a sleep function and a few bug fixes. I'm just waiting for a recording to finish before I upgrade. More info here (pdf from toppy.org.uk).
10/05/05 @ 18:15
Comment from Jason
First of all, thank you Stuart for your prompt reply to my last question.

The only thing stopping me from buying a Toppy at the mo' (apart from seemingly short supplies) is the inability to record from stand-by. My TV does not have the facility to prevent scart switching and so (from current reports) this could be a major pain. I wondered if the recent upgrade resolved this issue or even if it's seen as an issue.

Can you help?

Thanks in advance.
18/05/05 @ 08:36
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
I'm not aware of any changes in the firmware, but in what circumstances would it cause problems? If the TV was on standby then yes, it would turn it on, but obviously not if the TV had been switched off. Would it also switch channel if you were watching a DVD or video connected via scart? If so I can see it being a problem, but otherwise it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
18/05/05 @ 09:30
Comment from Jason
I believe that the TV always switches to the scart belonging to the device most recently powered up, similar to many auto-switching scart 'splitters'. This means that if you're watching a DVD or playing a game on your console and the Toppy starts a recording, then the TV selfishly changes to the Toppy input. Not a killer, but could become pretty annoying.

It really is a shame that DigiFusion quality control is so poor, as the software driving their products appeared to be almost faultless (and idiot proof) in operation over the half dozen months their PVR. I’ve had four faulty DigiFusion devices, so ‘buyer beware’!

Thanks again for the help Stuart.
18/05/05 @ 20:45
Comment from Nick
Potential Buyers Beware - From user feedback (see toppy.org) it appears that the latest firmware may have introduced a bug that means recordings have no sound distressingly often. This means you can't really trust it. Hopefully, if it is a bug then a fix will be forthcoming pretty soon. Apart from that it's excellent, but because of that I may be sending mine back...
31/05/05 @ 10:55
Comment from Philip Crossley
just been browsing this site to see comments made by toppy owners and would be,s of the topfield 5800. I have had mine for two months or so now and since the update firmware and using two taps on my machine ie jags epg and bookmark 2uk which puts a bookmark on the file when you press stop, Ive never had any problems with timers, missed programs, bad signal strength etc etc. It has performed faultlessly and I would recommend it to anyone. Of course you will always get people who would never be satisfied with whatever equipment they were using, in the end you must use your own judgement. I bought mine because I wanted ease of recording but it had to be digital and have two tuners. I think in this day and age it would be pointless buying anything with an analogue tuner that's why Ive held off buying a dvd recorder with a large hard drive until I beleive they will be coming out later this year with digital tuners.
TheSaint
03/06/05 @ 15:58
Comment from Dave
I got my Toppy last week but I’ve found the picture is too dark. If I use the TV/STB button (yellow light comes on: does it mean that it has switched source?) then the picture gets a little brighter but looses some detail. My Humax F2 STB gives a sharp, bright picture in the same setup. Is their a way to adjust the Toppy’s brightness?
06/06/05 @ 08:24
Comment from Nick
The TV/STB button changes the TV output between RGB and non-RGB (CVBS?). RGB generally gives better quality.

My telly tells me which type of input it's getting.

My RGB output matches the (Freeview) picture direct from my telly in terms of brightness/contrast and colour so there may be something up with yours.
07/06/05 @ 11:29
Comment from Jason
Dave

I had a similar problem with my DigiFusion box. Using RGB sorted it, but meant that I couldn't pass through my Skybox, as it would only accept composite input even though it gives RGB output. The solution was to pass the Skybox through PVR instead. DigiFusion told me that it was because their PVR is primarily designed for RGB operation and so, could not guarantee the quality of the composite image.

It's strange, because my LiteON DVD recorder is not affected in the same way, the quality of the composite image isn't quite as good as RGB, but it's just as bright!
07/06/05 @ 11:50
Comment from Rick
I am considering the purchase of a "PVR". I wish to record as many films etc and then transfer them to DVD so I can play them on a DVD when I go abroad. How easy is it to transfer recording from the TF5800PVR direct to a DVD
14/06/05 @ 15:23
Comment from Dave
I have just received my Toppy. Does anyone know if there is supposed to be a USB lead in the box with some info about TAPs
14/06/05 @ 16:17
Comment from Dave
Is it possible to copy from an ordinary Video Recorder to the hard drive of the TOPPY?
14/06/05 @ 16:20
Comment from Jason
Dave

The Toppy, like other PVR's records the digital signal of the Freeview broadcast straight to disk 'as is'. The unit does not contain the hardware necessary to convert an analogue signal (such as the old TV signal or a DVD/VCR) to digital, which the unit could then store. To record a source, I would suggest one of the following:
- A stand-alone DVD recorder (with or without a HDD)
- A graphics card with input for your PC
- A TV card for with composite/S-VHS input for your PC.
15/06/05 @ 13:01
Comment from Richard
Dave

There is no USB cable in the box, though reports suggest that if you buy one make sure it's a good quality branded cable as some people have had problems with disconnects while transferring data. I initially used a very long usb cable and this did cause problems which were solved when I swopped to a shorter cable that came with an HP printer. The Toppy manual has limited information about downloads and TAP's but you will find links/info at www.toppy.org.uk
17/06/05 @ 11:28
Comment from Dave
Thank you Jason and Richard, I have taken your comments on board

Dave
20/06/05 @ 12:27
Comment from Dave
Having succesfully transfered MP3s to the toppy, I was a bit dissapointed that it only plays 1 MP3 and then swirches back to TV. How do I get the toppy to play a list of MP3s and not just 1

Dave
25/06/05 @ 08:53
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
If you transfer your MP3s into a folder and then press play on the folder in the file list, it will play them all. The MP3 functions are somewhat limited, e.g. you can't fast forward through a track. Hopefully Topfield will extend the API to allow a TAP to do that sort of thing.
25/06/05 @ 23:43
Comment from Toy
Like most poeple, I've been waiting for a PVR that did everyhing my Sky plus box did. But without the need to pay money to be able to use my own hardware.
The Toppy likes as if it fits my need, especially with TAPs. But I'm very interested to know more about being able to pull recorded shows off the Toppy via the USB port. Is this a simple process ?

Tony
30/06/05 @ 10:12
Comment from Tony
I just answered my own question!

http://www.toppy.tv/faq.php

Has lots of very useful links.
Including details on networking the Toppy.
I must have this PVR, it has a great community and TAPs is the best. Not sure if I can wait for the new Black version. mmmm, nice. 8-)

Tony
30/06/05 @ 14:39
Comment from Gary
Can anyone comment on how noisy the Toppy is? I live in a studio flat, if it is noisy it will drive me mad! I have heard the Inverto is very quiet
04/07/05 @ 22:46
Comment from Brian
Have just boght a toppy from unbeatable after reading the reviews that you have posted.I must say that so far i am very impressed with the results,it has performed flawlessly.I returned my Digifusion to Unbeatable after having had it for 3 months ,this was the second one that failed.I have also had a Humax which also started blocking up after a few months.Comparing the toppy to these 2 there is no contest the toppy comes out on top for picture quality and ease of use.
30/07/05 @ 08:39
Comment from Juha
Does anybody of you know what the difference is between the TF5000 PVRt and the TF5800 PVR?

Also, do the TF5800 PVR and TF5000 PVRt record in AC3/Dolby Digital format too or is it only possible to get AC3/Dolby Digital in "real-time", i.e. when watching a program that is sent in Dolby format?

30/07/05 @ 22:40
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
The TF5000 is a satellite receiver; the TF5800 is Freeview. I don't know whether either can record Dolby Digital, but Freeview doesn't broadcast it so it's not an issue for the TF5800
30/07/05 @ 22:47
Comment from Juha
Stuart, according to www.topfield.co.kr, the TF5000 is available in both satellite (model no TF5000PVR), terrestrial (model no TF5000PVRt) and cable version (model no TF5000PVRc).

So my question is what the difference is between the terrestrial model TF5000PVRt and the terrestrial model TF58000PVR?

From what I have been able to find out on various sites, the TF58000PVR is a UK version of the TF5000PVRt?

Has anybody tested to record 5.1-broadcasts on their TF5000PVRt:s? Here in Sweden quite many broadcasts are in 5.1-sound.

/Juha
02/08/05 @ 23:34
Comment from Stuart · http://www.ivorysky.com
Hi Trevor. I can't help with the DVD recording, as it's something I do via my PC, but with regard to the hard drive, yes, it is user replaceable.

Changing it would obviously invalidate the warranty, so if there's a problem in the 1st year it would be better to take it back to the dealer, but there are already people who have replaced it with 400GB drives just for the extra space.

It's the Panasonic TU-CTH100 which has to be sent off for a disk change as it has the OS held on the disk.

Now that the Inverto is out it has reinforced my view that I took the right decision by getting the Toppy. A number of Inverto users are having problems with playback skipping, and there are also reports of the boxes crashing when downloading the EPG overnight (something the Toppy doesn't have to do). There's a firmware upgrade for the Topfield due out in a week's time, and this should iron out the few niggles left.
11/08/05 @ 12:26
Comment from Michael Lewis
When you connect to a PC, does it simply see the TF hard drive as another external hard drive?
I like to convert TV programs to xvid format to watch them on my Palm. If the PC sees the TF hard drive, then I don't need to download the TV program onto the PC hard drive.
Mick
25/08/05 @ 07:00
Comment from Tom Winkel
Finger trouble?

I received my tf5800 from Digitaldirect yesterday. The receiver seems to work more or OK. I am however unable to record anything as the 'recording' tab in the menu is greyed out as well as the 'format disk'. In the time setting display record is on 'off' and I cannot change it.Could this be finger trouble or is the unit faulty?
Please help

tom
08/09/05 @ 11:45
Comment from Frank Eltham
I gather everyone is pretty happy with the Topfield.

I've just sent my FVRT200 back - as it always made mistakes with aspect ratio on ITV2/3 and E4.
(This is a known fault).
I have read similar comments on the Topfield. Do you think that was a faulty box or is this a known issue?
Otherwise it looks like an excellent box.
08/09/05 @ 12:12
Comment from nik
Tom (and others), to re-iterate, there's a very active forum at:

http://www.toppy.org.uk

All your questions probably already asked and often answered very quickly.

Check it out!


15/09/05 @ 11:51
Re: Your reply on 30/07/05 @ 22:47 to Juha about Dolby Digital. I assume then that if i want to get the Toppy and dispense with phono cables that the optical audio out will work for all sound outputs including mp3?
24/09/05 @ 11:24
Comment from Alan
Hi Everyone

Great info from you all, I have just ordered my Toppy online and cant wait for delivery...after reading all of your reviews i am sure I have made the right choice and will find out more about the TAPS etc...

Alan
30/10/05 @ 22:41
Comment from paul douglas · http://www.freeuk.co.uk
Hi Toppies

Q1 I have a shelf space of 126mm (height) which I intend putting a 60mm(height) Panasonic DVD recorder leaving 66mm. Can someone confirm that the advertised 60mm includes feet.
Q2 Just how hot does the toppy get? i.e. could you comfortably leave your hand on it for a prolonged time?
Q3 Is it best to connect the toppy to the DVD recorder through the VCR SCART socket to backup recordings?
08/11/05 @ 12:55
Comment from jake
Hi

Like most of you, I have been waiting ages for the right PVR
From most of the comments it seems that this is it!!!

Most PVR's that I have looked at seem to have a remote that is slow. I.E. From pressing a button to something happening it takes seconds. In any event a lot longer than a TV controller. That would send me crazy. I am not the worlds most patient person!!

How does the TF5800 compare to others in this respect.
11/11/05 @ 12:52
Comment from bilhar
I was the same as you and found most remote responses slow. The Topfield is very responsive. The the replacement TAP EPG (I use EPG Navigator and MyStuff) it instant and very fast.
I had a Digifusion before which was not bad response, but this is so much better.
One word of warning, the more Taps you put into the Autostart folder, the longer it taking to powerup from standby (as it loads each TAP into memory. But I can live with this no problem!!!
25/04/06 @ 16:45
Comment from nigel
Do you know if the Topfield TF5800 PVR supports HDTV?
05/05/06 @ 19:34
Comment from Mike
I have a Sky digibox but I don't want to go for Sky+.
Question: Can I connect the Topfield TF5800 PVR to the Sky digibox and record from it (as well as from Freeview)?
17/11/06 @ 18:14
Comment from Andy
Hi Nigel, The Toppy is a freeview device and HDTV is not available on freeview, and probably won't be for several years - if at all due to bandwidth limitations. The BBC are currently running trial transmissions in the North London area with a HD signal on freeview, but only a few hundred viewers have been given the equipment to test. Maybe if a few of the silly shopping and lifestyle channels can be gotten rid of, there will be room for a full HD service in the future. ;-) Or perhaps a leap in compression technology - but that would mean a new box too.....
21/11/06 @ 22:50
Comment from Ennis
Hello
Looking for pvr and Toppy looks good.Would it be possible to copy programmes from the hard drive on to a mamory stick-what size would I need?-and then transfer to computer to make dvd?
Would this be copied in real time or high speed (I'm new to all this!)
Also does 5800 provide split screen facility.
Finally does chaseback still jump to the end when recording finished re earlier comment if watching football
Many Thanks
31/10/07 @ 13:20
Comment from Ennis
Hello
Looking for pvr and Toppy looks good.Would it be possible to copy programmes from the hard drive on to a mamory stick-what size would I need?-and then transfer to computer to make dvd?
Would this be copied in real time or high speed (I'm new to all this!)
Also does 5800 provide split screen facility.
Finally does chaseback still jump to the end when recording finished re earlier comment if watching football
Many Thanks
31/10/07 @ 13:23
Comment from Maurice
This may assist Martin
19/07/08 @ 17:08
Comment from Riccardo
There's now a Topfield TF5810 PVR that can upscale for HD-Ready TV's. Is there any way to do this with the good old 5800 or is just impossible with a SCART output??
26/08/08 @ 19:22

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